What does Duck Dynasty Really Believe About Baptism?

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In the video below, Todd Friel on the Wretched show addresses the topic, “Duck Dynasty: What EXACTLY do they believe?” I was recently in the Wretched studio and spoke with Todd about Duck Dynasty and baptismal regeneration. He told me he was going to cover the topic.

I gave Todd the name of a mutual friend who has actually spoken to the main preaching elder at White’s Ferry Church of Christ, the church were the Robertson’s are members. The We Care Ministries Todd mentions in the video is headed by Larry West who he also mentions. Just so there is no confusion that West may be some unknown, he is the father-in-law of Jase Robertson and has been ministering with White’s Ferry for 30 years. I have documented the issues Todd addresses including the information about We Care Ministries in A Few More Things You Should Know About Duck Dynasty.

Anyway, check out the video.

 



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1 Lynn Mac October 17, 2013 at 7:48 pm

— Mark 16:16 is not heresy. 
—The bible does not teach one is first saved then baptized, again Mk16:16 puts baptism BEFORE salvation not after
—The bible, not man-made orthodoxy, determines truth,

2 RandyDavenport November 23, 2013 at 8:56 am

Lynn Mac
You should read Acts 16.  They repented then believed.  Ephesians 2:8-9,  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9
   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=10&v=10&t=KJV#s=1056010     
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
.Several times in the NT it is said that new converts first believed then were baptized.  Even Saul/Paul believed and was saved then baptized.

3 Bighoss December 24, 2013 at 11:34 am

The notion that the apostle Paul was saved before he was baptized, as claimed by Randy Davenport below and by many evangelicals, is simply not supported by scripture.  Paul, after asking, “Lord, what wilt thou have me to do?” was instructed by the Lord,  to “Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.”  (Acts 8:6) Paul himself recounts what he was told once he had gone into Damascus and found Ananias, a disciple the Lord had chosen to instruct Paul.  He was told simply this, which ought to settle any question of whether he had already had his sins forgiven and been saved on the road to Damascus:  “And now why tarriest thou? Arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.” (Acts 22:16)  Had Paul’s sins been been somehow  washed away on the road to Damascus? Obviously not, else Ananias would not have told him what to do in order to have his sins washed away.  

The often taught notion that baptism can not have anything to do with salvation is based on the incorrect characterization of baptism as a “work.” Since we are  saved by “works”, it is argued that baptism, being a “work” has nothing to do with salvation.  But the scriptures nowhere teach that baptism is a work of merit.  Baptism is simply a part of the lost sinner’s acceptance of that salvation that is offered by the grace of God.  No one is arguing that repentance is a “work,” but repentance is necessary for salvation.  Repentance is something the lost sinner must DO in order to accept that salvation offered by the grace of God, but it is not a work of merit. Neither faith, repentance, nor baptism (all of which are necessary elements of the sinner’s obedience to the gospel) are “works”.

The documented history of the church  shows that baptism was considered necessary for forgiveness of sins for about the first 1400 years of Christian history.  Early reformers like Calvin and Zwingli, in their over-reaction to the Catholic Church’s reliance on works of merit, erroneously characterized baptism as a “work” and thus concluded, erroneously, that baptism was not necessary for forgiveness of sin.  Their error, unfortunately, has been widely propagated.

4 RandyDavenport December 24, 2013 at 10:06 pm

An  ancient document, The Apostolic Tradition of Hippolytus gives light to early church practices. . It is attributed to a Roman presbyter, Hippolytus (AD 170?-253), and dated at the end of the second century. Scholars recognize it as “Western Christianity’s oldest
extant liturgical document. As such, it is invaluable for light shed on the religious life of the early Roman
Christian community.”20 Concerning the period of instruction, Hippolytus advises: “Catechumens will be under 
instruction from a period of three years. If someone is zealous and applies himself well to the work of the
catechumenate [lit., to the thing], not the period of time but [evidence of] conversion alone shall be judged.”
(Note: By the end of the fourth century the time has greatly decreased to a period of instruction during Lent).
The early church offered a period of instructions to the new believer before baptism.

5 RandyDavenport December 24, 2013 at 10:13 pm

Mark 16:16 “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
 
Acts 16:31, 33 “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.”
 
Baptism does not make you a believer but it shows you that you are a believer.  It does not save a believer; it shows the believer has been saved.  It is often done in the presence of family members, in front of the church a person is or has joined, and reflects an inward expression of an outward faith.
Many of the Old Testament patriarchs and matriarchs were never baptized yet we know that they will be in the kingdom of heaven.  Men and women like Abraham, Moses, http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/ruth-bible-story-summary/, Deborah, Aaron, David, Elijah, and so many others.  Even the thief on the cross was saved by his profession of belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah and there was no chance of his coming down from the cross to be baptized. 
 
Romans 10:9 -13 “If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

6 larry allen January 1, 2014 at 6:01 pm

RandyDavenport the necessity of being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ was not preached until the day of pentecost.  so people who died before then could not have been held responsible for doing something they did not know about.  you mention Romans 10: 9-13 and the phrase “call on the name of the Lord”.  where had Paul, the author of romans, heard that phrase before?  Annanias told the same Paul to “arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord” Acts 22:16.  So Paul knew that being baptized for the remisson of sins is how one “calls on the name of the Lord”.  check it out.

7 Will Lunsford September 17, 2014 at 5:17 pm

My name is Will, & I don’t hesitate to tell you Todd Friel is a false teacher & a liar. He denies, distorts, & ignores the Holy Spirit inspired author James, the apostle( Gal. 1:19) & Lord’s brother, in Js.2:24, that says “Ye see then how a man is justified (declared not guilty) by works, & NOT by faith only” – the only time the Bible uses the words faith & only together in a passage. I don’t read about any apostle or inspired(God-breathed) man named Todd. A person doesn’t have to be baptized by any “pastor”(I assume he means minister) or elder(which are one in the same office) in the church of Christ, nor have I EVER heard of that being taught. Any member of the Lord’s church may baptize. The record isn’t clear that should none be available at the time one recognizes his need of salvation, a person could be baptized by anyone. But all instances of baptism Biblically recorded post-Pentecost were performed by Christians. Friel’s ignorance never ends nor his efforts to deceive.

8 edwardfarris74@yahoo.com November 1, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Jesus name Baptism is the only way. Titles won’t save you Acts 2:38

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