Ethics: Pastor Introduces ‘Kings Way’ to Reach Muslims

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What would you do Wednesday!

Today’s situation is inspired by the recent Christian-Muslim relationship controversy surrounding Rick Warren. Warren has attempted to set the record straight concerning the recent reporting of his position on Christian-Muslim interaction.1 This post is not about Rick Warren although the information used below is from sources affiliated with the Christian-Muslim relationships in which Saddleback Church is involved.

So we begin…

During the Sunday morning announcements your pastors presents a plan to get the congregation to reach and work with their Muslim neighbors. He explains that he is inspired by what Saddleback Church is doing in the Muslim community.

Your pastor shares that this plan is called Kings Way and shares the following vision for the plan.

Kings Way describes a path to end the 1400 years of misunderstanding between Muslims and Christians by consulting the texts we each call sacred in order to form a basis that allows us the privilege to serve the needs in our communities together.2

Further, he explains that a document will be used to help everyone appreciate the similarities of Christianity and Islam. He quotes the following.

The document encouraged that our communities work together towards the common good and to combat bigotry in a 1-2-3 plan. The first step in the plan identifies the belief in one God. The second step acknowledges God’s commandment to love God and your neighbor. Finally, step three is for our communities to commit to three things: making friends, building peace, and serving the world at large together.3

The congregation is then lead to sing Kumbaya! (OK, not really.)

What would you do?

  • Go along with this great idea.
  • Hesitantly ask questions before accepting the idea.
  • Immediately oppose the idea and meet with the pastor.
  • Move your home and join Saddleback.
  • Or…

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  1. Rick Warren. News & Views 03/02/12. saddleback.com
  2. Jim Hinch. Kings Way presentation photo. jimhinch.wordpress.com
  3. The Islamic Center Of Southern California. ICSC Co-authors Historic Interfaith Document (cache). blog.icsconline.org
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1 Bruce H. March 7, 2012 at 4:59 pm

Seems like the “path” is a form of tolerance that finds similarities of commonness. The unspoken mission is to try to get Muslims to look at our Bible, however, you have to realize the Muslim is thinking the same thing about his Quran. We have lived with Catholics in America with an evolving tolerance since we began. Muslims are politically assertive with their religion and will never never never let up until they conquer totally. This is not a religion to let our guard down with for the sake of tolerance.

I would strongly oppose this openly and demand the pastor’s position on it. I would not accept a middle of the road answer either. I would pursue disciplinary action or run from that kind of leadership.

2 SAGordon March 7, 2012 at 6:24 pm

I’m thinking…Run, Forrest, RUN!

But not before standing up to hopefully have the church consider the implications of such a course of action. It’s one thing to befriend a Muslim and find a common ground like, ‘We’re both from Oklahoma,’ or ‘We’re both NY Yankee fans.’ It’s completely unacceptable to say, ‘We worship the same God,’ or ‘We both believe in Jesus.’

SG!

3 Rhology March 8, 2012 at 9:41 am

This cannnot stand. The Gospel is conspicuously absent.

4 Scott Welch March 8, 2012 at 10:53 am

Burn the copies of Kumbaya before the next Sunday, of course.

To attempt an answer of your question, I would stand with my church’s constitution and by-laws, if it had any. Then I would sit with my pastor and ask:

– What is the church?
– Why does it exist?
– What is it called to do?
– Why do you think this document lines up with the previous questions?

5 Eugene Daniels March 8, 2012 at 1:11 pm

WOW! from the Purpose Driven Behavior Life Modifications to the Purposely Manipulated Congregation! This group is abandoning the great commission! As they are embracing the enemy’s of Christ with Universalism and Moralist Behavior.
The bible clearly teaches
1. “You shall have no other gods before me.”
Have you always put God first in your life? Jesus said to love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength– so much, that your love for your parents, brothers and sisters, friends, and even your own life is like hatred compared to your love and devotion for God. Have you ever failed to put Him first in your life?

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

2. “You shall not make for yourself any idol.”
Who is God to you? Is he only a god of love and mercy who would never judge anyone and never cast anyone into Hell? If that’s your god, then you’re right. Your god couldn’t cast anyone into Hell because he doesn’t exist. He’s a figment of your imagination. You’ve created a god in your own mind that you’re more comfortable with. You may call it your “personal belief,” but God calls it idolatry. It’s the oldest sin in the Book, and the Bible warns that idolaters will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

3. “You shall not take the name of God in vain.”
Have you ever used God’s name as a curse word? If you have, you’ve taken the holy name of God– who gave you your life, your family, and everything precious to you– and used it as a filthy, four-letter word. Hitler’s name wasn’t even despised enough to be used as a curse word! If you have used God’s holy name in that manner, you are a blasphemer and the Bible says “God will not hold him guiltless who takes the name of the Lord in vain.”

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

4. “Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy.”
God commands that we set aside one day in seven. Have you ever been guilty of breaking this Commandment?
Click on your answer below…

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

5. “Honor your father and your mother.”
Have you always honored your parents in a way that’s pleasing in the sight of God? Ask Him to remind you of the sins of your youth. You may have forgotten them, but God hasn’t.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

6. “You shall not murder.”
Jesus warned “Whoever is angry with his brother without cause, is in danger of judgment,” (Matthew 5:22) and the Bible says, “He who hates his brother is a murderer,” (1 John 3:15). God sees hatred in the heart to be as wicked as murder. We can violate His Law by attitude and intent.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

7. “You shall not commit adultery.”
Jesus warned, “You have heard…’You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you ever looked at another person with lust? The Bible says that adulterers and fornicators (those who have had sex before marriage) will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

8. “You shall not steal.”
Have you ever stolen anything (even if it was something small)? The value of the thing stolen doesn’t matter; petty theft is still theft. Have you ever taken anything that belonged to someone else (from the office, school, parents, etc.)? If you have, that makes you a thief.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.
No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

9. “You shall not lie.”
Have you ever told a lie? Then you are a liar. How many murders do you have to commit to be a murderer? Just one. If you have told even one lie, that makes you a liar. The Bible warns that all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 21:8). You may not think deceitfulness is a serious sin, but God does.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.

10. “You shall not covet.”
This means we should never desire anything that belongs to another person. Not their house, nor their car, nor their money, nor their wife, nor their lifestyle, nor anything that belongs to our neighbor.

Yes, I have broken this
commandment at least once.

No, I have NEVER broken this
commandment in my life.
Who of us can say we are not guilty of breaking these Commandments?
This is what the Bible means when it says, “All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.”
Can you see your predicament? You are guilty of sinning against God Himself, and, because you have a conscience, (“con”=with, “science”=knowledge) you have sinned “with knowledge.”
Isn’t it true that every time you lied, stole, or lusted, etc., you knew it was wrong?
Does the fact that you have sinned against God scare you?
It should.
You have actually angered Him by your sin.
The Bible says His wrath abides on you, that you are an “enemy of God in your mind through wicked works.”
Perhaps you think God is good and because of his goodness He will overlook your sins?
But if you knew of a human judge who turned a blind eye to the crimes of a guilty rapist… would you describe him as a “good” judge?
NO.
That would be a “corrupt” Judge!

God could never be a corrupt judge.
He will punish all the rapists, murderers, and thieves… But He won’t stop there. He will also punish all liars, the lustful, adulterers, idolaters, and blasphemers.
The place of eternal punishment is Hell.
God does not want you to perish. He is rich in mercy and compassion, and has provided a way for you to be forgiven. He has invited you to come to Him for a full pardon and receive the free gift of Eternal Life. You cannot earn it, and you do not deserve it, but God is offering it to you as proof of His love for you.
Imagine you are standing in front of a judge, guilty of multiple serious crimes. All the evidence has been presented and there is no doubt about your guilt. Your apologies and good works cannot erase your crimes; therefore you must be punished. The fine for your crime is $250,000 or imprisonment, but you don’t have two pennies to rub together. The judge is about to pass sentence when someone you don’t even know steps in and pays your fine for you! The court accepts the money and declares that you are free to go. The law has been satisfied, your debt has been paid in full, and the stranger’s sacrifice was a demonstration of his love for you. That’s what God did for you 2000 years ago.
The Bible says that the God of the Universe became a man (Jesus Christ), and suffered and died on the cross for your sins and mine so that we could be set free. Then he rose again from the dead and defeated death! It’s as simple as this—we broke the Law, and Jesus paid our fine.
“God demonstrated His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)
“Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us.” (Galatians 3:13)
Do you see God’s great love for you? Do you see your need for His forgiveness? Do what He commands and “Repent…that your sins may be wiped out and times of refreshing may come from the Lord.” (Acts 3:19) You must turn away from sin and turn to God. Desire to have NOTHING to do with sin, and surrender your life to the One who can save you. Jesus died to set you free, and then he rose from death to be your Lord. Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” If you will confess and forsake your sins (repent) and trust in Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord, God will forgive you and you’ll pass from death to life.
If you are not sure how to pray, read and make it your prayer.
What does it mean to “put your faith in Jesus Christ?” It means to personally trust in Jesus the same way you’d trust in a parachute if you had to jump 25,000 feet out of an airplane. You wouldn’t just “believe” in the parachute; you would put it on! In the same way, the Bible says, “Put on the Lord Jesus Christ…” and you will be saved. There are millions of people who “believe” Jesus exists . . . but they have not put on the Savior—there’s a BIG difference. And the difference will be obvious when you “jump” through the door of death.
Today, with all your heart—turn away from sin, and surrender your life to Jesus Christ. Please don’t put it off till later. You may die today and then it will be too late. You may not yet have all the answers to your questions, but better to put on the parachute first and then ask questions, then to pass through the door unprepared, grasping for the parachute when it’s too late. You can pray something like this—”Dear God, today I turn from all my sins (name them), and I put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Please forgive me, and grant me your gift of everlasting life. Amen.” There is nothing magic about these words—it is the attitude of your heart that God cares about.
God will transform you from the inside out. You will think and feel differently as you learn to trust and obey Him. God will give you new strength to live right and love Him above all else. Read your Bible daily and obey His Word. You can trust God—He loves you and will always be faithful. To help you get started, you may also want to read “10 Principles for New and Growing Christians.”
If you’ve decided to reject the gift of forgiveness and you die in your sins, there is no hope for you. There is no purgatory. The wrath of God abides on you and you will spend eternity in Hell. Please take the time to read according to the Bible.

6 Doug Benbow March 11, 2012 at 10:45 pm

One God? Allah is NOT Yahweh! There is no middle ground here.

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