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> <channel><title>Comments on: Liberty University, Glenn Beck and the Gospel</title> <atom:link href="http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/</link> <description>Christian, southern baptist, theology, reformed, thinking, culture, religion, apologetics, defense of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:13:28 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-32308</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:58:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-32308</guid> <description>Tom,
Thanks for dropping by. I have my own issues with Driscoll though I believe he is a Christian brother. Beck, a Mormon, on the other hand I do not regard him as a Christian brother.
Now maybe it&#039;s just me, but it seems that much less attention was given to Beck&#039;s speech than Driscoll&#039;s appearance. Soon after Beck&#039;s commencement speech Falwell, Jr. was praising it as one of the best Liberty has had.
Color me confused.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p><p>Thanks for dropping by. I have my own issues with Driscoll though I believe he is a Christian brother. Beck, a Mormon, on the other hand I do not regard him as a Christian brother.</p><p>Now maybe it&#8217;s just me, but it seems that much less attention was given to Beck&#8217;s speech than Driscoll&#8217;s appearance. Soon after Beck&#8217;s commencement speech Falwell, Jr. was praising it as one of the best Liberty has had.</p><p>Color me confused.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom Garito</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-32304</link> <dc:creator>Tom Garito</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:41:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-32304</guid> <description>And Now the Mark Driscoll Controversy at Liberty University
The Bible tells us that sex between husband and wife and within the bonds of marriage is a beautiful and wonderful gift from God.  That said, Christians today are living and walking in a minefield of sexual enticements in a sex obsessed culture.  Modesty and purity are being attacked from every side.
With the invite of “Christianized sex obsessed”, Mark Driscoll to Liberty University it seems that this once strong bastion of conservative Biblical thought is now simply attempting to keep up with and even surpass the worldliness of the world.
Even though Mark Driscoll may make a few valid points, his focus is far from the focus of Jesus.  What about the millions who will be suffering for eternity for lack of hearing and responding to the Good News.  In saner times that Good News was the focus of the education provided by Liberty University.
With Mormon Glenn Beck’s commencement teaching on “faith” and Mark Driscoll’s sex obsessed rantings, parents might want to re-consider sending their vulnerable children to the “safe” environment of “Christian” Liberty University.  At least in a secular university you know what you are up against.  At Liberty University, if your guard is down, wolves may be finding it easy pickings to take their prey.
Tom Garito
Father of a Liberty Graduate</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Now the Mark Driscoll Controversy at Liberty University</p><p>The Bible tells us that sex between husband and wife and within the bonds of marriage is a beautiful and wonderful gift from God.  That said, Christians today are living and walking in a minefield of sexual enticements in a sex obsessed culture.  Modesty and purity are being attacked from every side.</p><p>With the invite of “Christianized sex obsessed”, Mark Driscoll to Liberty University it seems that this once strong bastion of conservative Biblical thought is now simply attempting to keep up with and even surpass the worldliness of the world.</p><p>Even though Mark Driscoll may make a few valid points, his focus is far from the focus of Jesus.  What about the millions who will be suffering for eternity for lack of hearing and responding to the Good News.  In saner times that Good News was the focus of the education provided by Liberty University.</p><p>With Mormon Glenn Beck’s commencement teaching on “faith” and Mark Driscoll’s sex obsessed rantings, parents might want to re-consider sending their vulnerable children to the “safe” environment of “Christian” Liberty University.  At least in a secular university you know what you are up against.  At Liberty University, if your guard is down, wolves may be finding it easy pickings to take their prey.</p><p>Tom Garito<br
/> Father of a Liberty Graduate</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-32183</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:18:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-32183</guid> <description>Hi Ben,
I have a question about your comment that we should be leading people to Christ. Would that be the Christ of Joseph Smith or the actual Christ written about in the New Testament?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p><p>I have a question about your comment that we should be leading people to Christ. Would that be the Christ of Joseph Smith or the actual Christ written about in the New Testament?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-32179</link> <dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:28:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-32179</guid> <description>I know this is post is a couple of years old, but I have to express my disappointment. We should be looking for the good and leading people to Christ though our example not trying to shun people. How can we change them if we do not interact with them or make them feel welcome.  As C. S. Lewis once said &quot;All the worst pleasures are purely spiritual: the pleasure of putting other people in the wrong, of bossing and patronizing; . . . the pleasures of power, of hatred. For there are two things inside me, competing with the human self which I must try to become. They are the Animal self, and the Diabolical self. The Diabolical self is the worse of the two. That is why a cold, self-righteous prig who goes regularly to church may be far nearer to hell than a prostitute.”</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is post is a couple of years old, but I have to express my disappointment. We should be looking for the good and leading people to Christ though our example not trying to shun people. How can we change them if we do not interact with them or make them feel welcome.  As C. S. Lewis once said &#8220;All the worst pleasures are purely spiritual: the pleasure of putting other people in the wrong, of bossing and patronizing; . . . the pleasures of power, of hatred. For there are two things inside me, competing with the human self which I must try to become. They are the Animal self, and the Diabolical self. The Diabolical self is the worse of the two. That is why a cold, self-righteous prig who goes regularly to church may be far nearer to hell than a prostitute.”</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Smith</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25965</link> <dc:creator>Dan Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25965</guid> <description>Somehow I missed this when it happened. Not the event, for I am a graduate student at LU, but I missed your post. This has made me angry all over again. I more or less have to finish my MA in Theology from Liberty because I&#039;m so far into it, but I promise you I won&#039;t be walking across the stage to receive my diploma if they do a stunt like this in 2011.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I missed this when it happened. Not the event, for I am a graduate student at LU, but I missed your post. This has made me angry all over again. I more or less have to finish my MA in Theology from Liberty because I&#8217;m so far into it, but I promise you I won&#8217;t be walking across the stage to receive my diploma if they do a stunt like this in 2011.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25464</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25464</guid> <description>ASH,
Thank you!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASH,</p><p>Thank you!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25463</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:40:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25463</guid> <description>A philosophy of education and a mission/aims position is quite different than a philosophy of commencement speaking. If Beck had been hired to teach at Liberty, that would be directly relevant to the passages you cited. But asking him to speak one time at graduation is substantially unrelated to what you quoted. So you&#039;re missing it here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A philosophy of education and a mission/aims position is quite different than a philosophy of commencement speaking. If Beck had been hired to teach at Liberty, that would be directly relevant to the passages you cited. But asking him to speak one time at graduation is substantially unrelated to what you quoted. So you&#8217;re missing it here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William W. Wexler</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25462</link> <dc:creator>William W. Wexler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:35:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25462</guid> <description>Oh, Wesley.  How can you be &quot;honored&quot; to have a hypocrite and someone who professes a heretical, false belief system that slanders your faith by using the same name?
You&#039;re proud of this?  If so, I would say that your faith is rather thin compared to your politics.  In other words, you wasted your 4 years studying at Liberty U, you should have just sat in front of your TV and left it tuned into Fox News and the 700 Club.
-Wexler</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Wesley.  How can you be &#8220;honored&#8221; to have a hypocrite and someone who professes a heretical, false belief system that slanders your faith by using the same name?</p><p>You&#8217;re proud of this?  If so, I would say that your faith is rather thin compared to your politics.  In other words, you wasted your 4 years studying at Liberty U, you should have just sat in front of your TV and left it tuned into Fox News and the 700 Club.</p><p>-Wexler</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25461</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:33:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25461</guid> <description>Thank you!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25460</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:31:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25460</guid> <description>Liberty University is not a church. Ponder what that means.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberty University is not a church. Ponder what that means.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25459</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25459</guid> <description>&quot;Dr. Towns’ answer does not seem to care about the gospel, rather he seems to care more about American politics.&quot;
That was uncalled for. You wouldn&#039;t be in a position to know what Dr. Towns cares for.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dr. Towns’ answer does not seem to care about the gospel, rather he seems to care more about American politics.&#8221;</p><p>That was uncalled for. You wouldn&#8217;t be in a position to know what Dr. Towns cares for.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25458</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25458</guid> <description>A much more open and balanced view, careful to make distinctions. Thank you! You ask good questions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A much more open and balanced view, careful to make distinctions. Thank you! You ask good questions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25457</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:18:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25457</guid> <description>You don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25456</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:17:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25456</guid> <description>Wesley,
I appreciate that you attended and graduated from Liberty. Thanks for your comment, however I&#039;m confused on something. Where has Liberty been slandered specifically? Did I say something false in my post?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley,</p><p>I appreciate that you attended and graduated from Liberty. Thanks for your comment, however I&#8217;m confused on something. Where has Liberty been slandered specifically? Did I say something false in my post?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25455</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25455</guid> <description>You cited stuff about chapel/convocation, not commencement addresses. Two different things.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cited stuff about chapel/convocation, not commencement addresses. Two different things.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25454</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25454</guid> <description>Thank you! I believe Paige Patterson was sitting on the same stage with Beck, and Patterson spoke briefly about the true biblical gospel before Beck ever spoke. Beck was not asked to deliver a religious, spiritual, theological, evangelistic, or whatever else kind of speech, but he was allowed the freedom to say what he wanted and to include religion if he so chose. You&#039;re take on it is so much more balanced and understanding than the rest of what I&#039;m reading on here. So thank you for that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! I believe Paige Patterson was sitting on the same stage with Beck, and Patterson spoke briefly about the true biblical gospel before Beck ever spoke. Beck was not asked to deliver a religious, spiritual, theological, evangelistic, or whatever else kind of speech, but he was allowed the freedom to say what he wanted and to include religion if he so chose. You&#8217;re take on it is so much more balanced and understanding than the rest of what I&#8217;m reading on here. So thank you for that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25453</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:11:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25453</guid> <description>I don&#039;t understand this reaction! Talk about blurring the lines between the church and an academic institution. Wow. The shame you cast is unwarranted.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand this reaction! Talk about blurring the lines between the church and an academic institution. Wow. The shame you cast is unwarranted.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25452</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:07:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25452</guid> <description>The points you raise completely off the mark. Jesus sending the 70 is in no way parallel. The Mormon faith was anything but affirmed. Dr. Towns gave the right response.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The points you raise completely off the mark. Jesus sending the 70 is in no way parallel. The Mormon faith was anything but affirmed. Dr. Towns gave the right response.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25451</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25451</guid> <description>Beck&#039;s not even a good Mormon. Just because he says, I&#039;m a Mormon, it doesn&#039;t necessarily mean he is a fully informed, faithful, devout, practicing Mormon. He may be, of course. But do we have reason to assume such is the case? I don&#039;t know. But if so, I&#039;ll be happy to concede the point. Nevertheless, I would still support him being invited to deliver the commencement speech.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck&#8217;s not even a good Mormon. Just because he says, I&#8217;m a Mormon, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean he is a fully informed, faithful, devout, practicing Mormon. He may be, of course. But do we have reason to assume such is the case? I don&#8217;t know. But if so, I&#8217;ll be happy to concede the point. Nevertheless, I would still support him being invited to deliver the commencement speech.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25450</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:57:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25450</guid> <description>Ridiculous! I went to Liberty for 4 years. I know better.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous! I went to Liberty for 4 years. I know better.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25449</link> <dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25449</guid> <description>As one who atended Liberty for 4 years and who walked at the graduation ceremony where Glenn Beck spoke, I was honored to have him speak, and I support the decision to have him deliver the commencement address. All of you on here who are slandering LU are in the wrong for doing so. You have a reason to criticize Liberty over the Ergun Caner scandal; I&#039;ll join you in that discussion. But slandering Liberty for asking Glenn Beck to speak at commencement is unwarranted, and some of those sorts of comments on here are a little bit offensive. Just trying to be honest and offer some input from the other side.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who atended Liberty for 4 years and who walked at the graduation ceremony where Glenn Beck spoke, I was honored to have him speak, and I support the decision to have him deliver the commencement address. All of you on here who are slandering LU are in the wrong for doing so. You have a reason to criticize Liberty over the Ergun Caner scandal; I&#8217;ll join you in that discussion. But slandering Liberty for asking Glenn Beck to speak at commencement is unwarranted, and some of those sorts of comments on here are a little bit offensive. Just trying to be honest and offer some input from the other side.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: brian</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25447</link> <dc:creator>brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:44:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25447</guid> <description>the old 32,000 denomination charge Roman Catholics make against Christians! Of course you know that they also group Mormons in with that ridiculous number. What a joke. Those holding to contradictory &quot;infallible&quot; extrabiblical revelation using the same arguements! How refreshing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the old 32,000 denomination charge Roman Catholics make against Christians! Of course you know that they also group Mormons in with that ridiculous number. What a joke. Those holding to contradictory &#8220;infallible&#8221; extrabiblical revelation using the same arguements! How refreshing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrin</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25140</link> <dc:creator>Darrin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:06:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25140</guid> <description>Wexler,
I just saw your question about what I said about morality. Now I can&#039;t say that the following entirely applies to what LU did having Beck, but I would say it&#039;s something that does go on. Often as believers (I understand you&#039;re not, and frankly some of these are &quot;family&quot; (i.e. Christ&#039;s church) issues, so we Christians should be discerning in what we openly discuss, advice which I sometimes fail to follow), we become very passionate about political and moral issues affecting the nation, and I&#039;m not faulting that. However, it is easy in so doing to lose the primary focus which believers should have, trusting in God&#039;s providence, looking toward eternity, relating with Christ, and resting in His sovereignty, truth and grace. So sometimes I think we may find a prominent advocate for morality and sponsor him, even though his views about Christ are way off the mark from historic Christianity. I think that is a mistake, because theological doctrine must be the foundation for all else, and is more important than our stance on particular issues.
On the marriage thing, I&#039;ll just say that I don&#039;t believe we have inherent rights, but rather that, since we were made by a Creator, any rights we have came from Him as well. Thus the rights would always be in accord with His decrees.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wexler,<br
/> I just saw your question about what I said about morality. Now I can&#8217;t say that the following entirely applies to what LU did having Beck, but I would say it&#8217;s something that does go on. Often as believers (I understand you&#8217;re not, and frankly some of these are &#8220;family&#8221; (i.e. Christ&#8217;s church) issues, so we Christians should be discerning in what we openly discuss, advice which I sometimes fail to follow), we become very passionate about political and moral issues affecting the nation, and I&#8217;m not faulting that. However, it is easy in so doing to lose the primary focus which believers should have, trusting in God&#8217;s providence, looking toward eternity, relating with Christ, and resting in His sovereignty, truth and grace. So sometimes I think we may find a prominent advocate for morality and sponsor him, even though his views about Christ are way off the mark from historic Christianity. I think that is a mistake, because theological doctrine must be the foundation for all else, and is more important than our stance on particular issues.<br
/> On the marriage thing, I&#8217;ll just say that I don&#8217;t believe we have inherent rights, but rather that, since we were made by a Creator, any rights we have came from Him as well. Thus the rights would always be in accord with His decrees.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Quinlan</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25138</link> <dc:creator>Quinlan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:21:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25138</guid> <description>By the way - by your own logic, there&#039;s enough evidence not to believe in God, as evidenced by Mr. Wexler and myself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way &#8211; by your own logic, there&#8217;s enough evidence not to believe in God, as evidenced by Mr. Wexler and myself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Quinlan</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25137</link> <dc:creator>Quinlan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:15:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25137</guid> <description>See, I disagree with that. I have my own theories, many of which are shared by other atheists, as to why people so readily accept God as reality.
1. Indoctrination. Many people are raised by their parents to believe in God. Children listen to their parents, whether or not what they are saying is true or sensible. A lot of people just take their parents&#039; opinions about God (among other things), and use them rather than really thinking about their own ideas.
2. Fear of death. Many people don&#039;t want to just die and disappear, as a lot of atheists believe. So they like this idea of a heaven, where you can go if you believe in God. I&#039;ve even heard people say that they&#039;re only religious for this reason.
3. Sadness at the death of others. Many people don&#039;t want to believe that their loved one is simply gone forever. They want to think that in a few short years, they will too die and then be reunited with their dead relative.
4. To fit in. So many people see atheists being shunned, and want to fit into the crowd. So again, a lot of people just do the whole God thing because of one perk.
So really, it&#039;s not that God can&#039;t give evidence for his existence, because he&#039;s omnipotent (in theory) and can do anything. It&#039;s people not being able to support their idea of God.
What if I told you that there was a celestial teapot, orbiting the Earth? What if I told you that this teapot is so small, that we can&#039;t prove it because our instruments aren&#039;t strong enough? Well, I should rightly be thought mad. But if this teapot were the focus of an old storybook and was taught as fact every Sunday, then we would see a very different outlook on my little teapot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I disagree with that. I have my own theories, many of which are shared by other atheists, as to why people so readily accept God as reality.</p><p>1. Indoctrination. Many people are raised by their parents to believe in God. Children listen to their parents, whether or not what they are saying is true or sensible. A lot of people just take their parents&#8217; opinions about God (among other things), and use them rather than really thinking about their own ideas.</p><p>2. Fear of death. Many people don&#8217;t want to just die and disappear, as a lot of atheists believe. So they like this idea of a heaven, where you can go if you believe in God. I&#8217;ve even heard people say that they&#8217;re only religious for this reason.</p><p>3. Sadness at the death of others. Many people don&#8217;t want to believe that their loved one is simply gone forever. They want to think that in a few short years, they will too die and then be reunited with their dead relative.</p><p>4. To fit in. So many people see atheists being shunned, and want to fit into the crowd. So again, a lot of people just do the whole God thing because of one perk.</p><p>So really, it&#8217;s not that God can&#8217;t give evidence for his existence, because he&#8217;s omnipotent (in theory) and can do anything. It&#8217;s people not being able to support their idea of God.</p><p>What if I told you that there was a celestial teapot, orbiting the Earth? What if I told you that this teapot is so small, that we can&#8217;t prove it because our instruments aren&#8217;t strong enough? Well, I should rightly be thought mad. But if this teapot were the focus of an old storybook and was taught as fact every Sunday, then we would see a very different outlook on my little teapot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25136</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:42:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25136</guid> <description>Quinlan, it seems that God has given people enough opportunity to believe in Him as evidenced by the Christians commenting here, for example.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quinlan, it seems that God has given people enough opportunity to believe in Him as evidenced by the Christians commenting here, for example.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William W. Wexler</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25128</link> <dc:creator>William W. Wexler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25128</guid> <description>Resequitur,
If you don&#039;t mind, would you please explain a couple of things to me?
First, what is &quot;uniformity of nature&quot; and what does it mean in the context of this discussion?  What is a Triune God and how is all experimentation grounded in this Triune God?
I am not sure by what authority you assign all atheists with any particular belief.  The way I explain my atheism is that it is a disbelief system, not a belief system.  I do not claim to know anything more than anyone else.  We all know the same amount.  Which is not much.
Thanks in advance, and
Peace,
Wexler
I should tell you that although I am an atheist, I am somewhat versed in Christian theology.  I have not heard those phrases used, however.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resequitur,</p><p>If you don&#8217;t mind, would you please explain a couple of things to me?</p><p>First, what is &#8220;uniformity of nature&#8221; and what does it mean in the context of this discussion?  What is a Triune God and how is all experimentation grounded in this Triune God?</p><p>I am not sure by what authority you assign all atheists with any particular belief.  The way I explain my atheism is that it is a disbelief system, not a belief system.  I do not claim to know anything more than anyone else.  We all know the same amount.  Which is not much.</p><p>Thanks in advance, and</p><p>Peace,</p><p>Wexler</p><p>I should tell you that although I am an atheist, I am somewhat versed in Christian theology.  I have not heard those phrases used, however.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Quinlan</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25124</link> <dc:creator>Quinlan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:03:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25124</guid> <description>I&#039;ll answer your questions, once I&#039;m satisfied with my understanding of your opinion about this.
So you think I shouldn&#039;t kill my son, but I would have the right to do him permanent bodily harm without causing his death? Of course under my definition circumcision would fit, but that&#039;s another issue, I mean some other kind of permanent disfigurement.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll answer your questions, once I&#8217;m satisfied with my understanding of your opinion about this.</p><p>So you think I shouldn&#8217;t kill my son, but I would have the right to do him permanent bodily harm without causing his death? Of course under my definition circumcision would fit, but that&#8217;s another issue, I mean some other kind of permanent disfigurement.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William W. Wexler</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25123</link> <dc:creator>William W. Wexler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:03:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25123</guid> <description>I had a very busy day today and it looks like y&#039;all did, too.
I am very tired at the moment but I just read through all the posts in my inbox and something jumped out at me.
Somebody posted that it was a man&#039;s right to have a gun and defend his family, in defense of gun rights.  Someone said that the Bill of Rights were to prevent the state from infringing on those specific rights.
Why, then, did somebody argue previously that the right to choose your spouse is not a human right?  Or, on the other hand, if the state makes a law protecting it, it becomes a protected right doesn&#039;t it?  Isn&#039;t that the exact same thing as what has happened with LGBT marriage laws?  The state has ruled that it does not have the authority to take this right away from people who want to practice it.
Good evening to all.
Wexler</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a very busy day today and it looks like y&#8217;all did, too.</p><p>I am very tired at the moment but I just read through all the posts in my inbox and something jumped out at me.</p><p>Somebody posted that it was a man&#8217;s right to have a gun and defend his family, in defense of gun rights.  Someone said that the Bill of Rights were to prevent the state from infringing on those specific rights.</p><p>Why, then, did somebody argue previously that the right to choose your spouse is not a human right?  Or, on the other hand, if the state makes a law protecting it, it becomes a protected right doesn&#8217;t it?  Isn&#8217;t that the exact same thing as what has happened with LGBT marriage laws?  The state has ruled that it does not have the authority to take this right away from people who want to practice it.</p><p>Good evening to all.</p><p>Wexler</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Resequitur</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/liberty-university-glenn-beck-gospel/comment-page-2/#comment-25121</link> <dc:creator>Resequitur</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:46:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=3621#comment-25121</guid> <description>&quot;Okay, before I move on to other points, let me get this one thing straight: If I had a son, you think it would be my right to kill him?&quot;
according to my worldview, taking the life of another is wrong for us to do. God is the judge and in our rebelling against Him, we are worthy of death.
Why would murder be wrong according to your worldview?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Okay, before I move on to other points, let me get this one thing straight: If I had a son, you think it would be my right to kill him?&#8221;</p><p>according to my worldview, taking the life of another is wrong for us to do. God is the judge and in our rebelling against Him, we are worthy of death.</p><p>Why would murder be wrong according to your worldview?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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