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> <channel><title>Comments on: Poll: Does Christian Hip-Hop Harm the Gospel?</title> <atom:link href="http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/</link> <description>Christian, southern baptist, theology, reformed, thinking, culture, religion, apologetics, defense of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:51:19 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Don</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-25945</link> <dc:creator>Don</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-25945</guid> <description>While the Gospel is Truth and nothing can really &quot;harm&quot; the Truth, there are innumerable means of obscuring it and all are due to our sin. Gospel Truth = sound doctrine. In today&#039;s morass of biblical teaching sound doctrine is the needle in the haystack. Just because Jesus, God, Word etc are mentioned, it qualifies as &quot;Christian&quot;. So Kanye sings Jesus Walks. Joel Osteen says Jesus. We must constantly define terminology no matter who is speaking. That takes work, so it&#039;s really easy to slip something by and have it be accepted.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the Gospel is Truth and nothing can really &#8220;harm&#8221; the Truth, there are innumerable means of obscuring it and all are due to our sin. Gospel Truth = sound doctrine. In today&#8217;s morass of biblical teaching sound doctrine is the needle in the haystack. Just because Jesus, God, Word etc are mentioned, it qualifies as &#8220;Christian&#8221;. So Kanye sings Jesus Walks. Joel Osteen says Jesus. We must constantly define terminology no matter who is speaking. That takes work, so it&#8217;s really easy to slip something by and have it be accepted.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darien Crawford</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-25494</link> <dc:creator>Darien Crawford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 07:57:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-25494</guid> <description>Shouldn&#039;t everything that we listen to be an act of worship! Why should we wait till Sunday to entertain &quot;appropriate worship&quot; songs! I mean, songs of worship started off with just voices, and not much rhythm, or rhyme! Should we cut out the piano and drums? The issue is not &quot;Hip Hop&quot;, the issue is your heart when hearing, or conveying the Gospel through Hip Hop!! God Bless you all. Crawford~</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t everything that we listen to be an act of worship! Why should we wait till Sunday to entertain &#8220;appropriate worship&#8221; songs! I mean, songs of worship started off with just voices, and not much rhythm, or rhyme! Should we cut out the piano and drums? The issue is not &#8220;Hip Hop&#8221;, the issue is your heart when hearing, or conveying the Gospel through Hip Hop!! God Bless you all. Crawford~</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence "L.G." Gilmer</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-24476</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence "L.G." Gilmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:34:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-24476</guid> <description>I personally believe that Christian Hip-Hop does not in any way harm the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As an artist of the genre I believe it can reach where many types can&#039;t go...alot of (Christian)People get saved and think that God is one dimentional when God can do ALL things! It&#039;s not about the music, it&#039;s about tha MESSAGE! We (Christians) need to stop judging and learn how to try tha Spirit by the Spirit...you would be surprised by what u find!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally believe that Christian Hip-Hop does not in any way harm the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As an artist of the genre I believe it can reach where many types can&#8217;t go&#8230;alot of (Christian)People get saved and think that God is one dimentional when God can do ALL things! It&#8217;s not about the music, it&#8217;s about tha MESSAGE! We (Christians) need to stop judging and learn how to try tha Spirit by the Spirit&#8230;you would be surprised by what u find!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hip hop style</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-24441</link> <dc:creator>hip hop style</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:47:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-24441</guid> <description>[...] for shared computers. Sign in anonymously. Don&#039;t add me to the active users list. or Cancel ...Poll &#124; Does Christian Hip-Hop Harm the Gospel?Poll: Does Christian Hip-Hop Harm the Gospel? Is the medium detrimental to the message? ... However, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for shared computers. Sign in anonymously. Don&#39;t add me to the active users list. or Cancel &#8230;Poll | Does Christian Hip-Hop Harm the Gospel?Poll: Does Christian Hip-Hop Harm the Gospel? Is the medium detrimental to the message? &#8230; However, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lisa Ritcher</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-24373</link> <dc:creator>Lisa Ritcher</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-24373</guid> <description>Amen to that!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-24149</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:14:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-24149</guid> <description>JG, those are good questions. As far a I can tell those are the questions those of us who have no problem with this kind of hip-hop have asked. If you look above you will see that I had the privilege of interviewing Sho Baraka. He certainly has a solid theology as best I can tell.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for stopping by.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JG, those are good questions. As far a I can tell those are the questions those of us who have no problem with this kind of hip-hop have asked. If you look above you will see that I had the privilege of interviewing Sho Baraka. He certainly has a solid theology as best I can tell.</p><p>Thanks for stopping by.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23847</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:14:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23847</guid> <description>JG, those are good questions. As far a I can tell those are the questions those of us who have no problem with this kind of hip-hop have asked. If you look above you will see that I had the privilege of interviewing Sho Baraka. He certainly has a solid theology as best I can tell.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for stopping by.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JG, those are good questions. As far a I can tell those are the questions those of us who have no problem with this kind of hip-hop have asked. If you look above you will see that I had the privilege of interviewing Sho Baraka. He certainly has a solid theology as best I can tell.</p><p>Thanks for stopping by.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JG</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23845</link> <dc:creator>JG</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:10:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23845</guid> <description>A few questions to consider: &quot;Are these rappers glorifying God in their work?&quot;, &quot;Are their lyrics grounded in sound theology?&quot;, &quot;Are they connecting with and reaching people that may otherwise not have be reached?&quot;, &quot;Are these men and women living lives in line with what they preach and good Christian models in the public sphere?&quot;  If the answers to these questions are &quot;yes,&quot; there should be no problem.  It seems to me that when people oppose Christian hip-hop, it stems more from cultural differences.  But just because people dress, talk, and make music much different than one may be used to, does not mean they are not doing God&#039;s work here on Earth.  I say any medium anchored in Christ is an appropriate means to spreading the Gospel.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With that being said I would suggest people check out artists such as Trip Lee, The Ambassidor, and Braille.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions to consider: &#8220;Are these rappers glorifying God in their work?&#8221;, &#8220;Are their lyrics grounded in sound theology?&#8221;, &#8220;Are they connecting with and reaching people that may otherwise not have be reached?&#8221;, &#8220;Are these men and women living lives in line with what they preach and good Christian models in the public sphere?&#8221;  If the answers to these questions are &#8220;yes,&#8221; there should be no problem.  It seems to me that when people oppose Christian hip-hop, it stems more from cultural differences.  But just because people dress, talk, and make music much different than one may be used to, does not mean they are not doing God&#39;s work here on Earth.  I say any medium anchored in Christ is an appropriate means to spreading the Gospel.</p><p>With that being said I would suggest people check out artists such as Trip Lee, The Ambassidor, and Braille.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BigDeezy</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23785</link> <dc:creator>BigDeezy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:35:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23785</guid> <description>I was just thinking about how I like suggesting different christian artists to people and I was faced with the fact that other than the &quot;reformed rap&quot; movement that has arose since Cross Movement, Reach Records, Lamp Mode, etc., I really wouldn&#039;t want to suggest any else out of all genres. Christian rock you would be surprised to find the word God or Jesus most of the time, and somehow we can nitpick on gospel rap from maybe not being so upfront (I&#039;ve heard it before). But men like Shai Linne, Voice, Christcentric (Evangel, Felix, Apologist) are basically giving more hard truth on their tracks than I&#039;ve heard in many churches! And they are not heretical! But yes, there is the possibility for any one rapper to be heretical and water down the gospel so that would be the case for Christianity as a whole. These guys that ARE solid are great teaching vessels are a very sinfluenced generation upcoming. Praise to God for them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking about how I like suggesting different christian artists to people and I was faced with the fact that other than the &#8220;reformed rap&#8221; movement that has arose since Cross Movement, Reach Records, Lamp Mode, etc., I really wouldn&#39;t want to suggest any else out of all genres. Christian rock you would be surprised to find the word God or Jesus most of the time, and somehow we can nitpick on gospel rap from maybe not being so upfront (I&#39;ve heard it before). But men like Shai Linne, Voice, Christcentric (Evangel, Felix, Apologist) are basically giving more hard truth on their tracks than I&#39;ve heard in many churches! And they are not heretical! But yes, there is the possibility for any one rapper to be heretical and water down the gospel so that would be the case for Christianity as a whole. These guys that ARE solid are great teaching vessels are a very sinfluenced generation upcoming. Praise to God for them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23757</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23757</guid> <description>I think we combat Kanye West and 50cent with the gospel not necessarily the style of music. Though I get what you&#039;re saying. It would also seem that all Christian hip-hop is not equal, just like any musical style. Or, just like any preaching/teaching as some are more biblically grounded than others. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Appreciate your comment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we combat Kanye West and 50cent with the gospel not necessarily the style of music. Though I get what you&#39;re saying. It would also seem that all Christian hip-hop is not equal, just like any musical style. Or, just like any preaching/teaching as some are more biblically grounded than others.</p><p>Appreciate your comment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sterling</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23756</link> <dc:creator>sterling</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:47:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23756</guid> <description>christian hiphop is the primary music genre to reach the youth of today. to be honest, traditional gospel music is mainly listened to by older people. we have to give the youth music they can relate to. you cant combat kanye west and 50cent with the traditonal songs. besides, the youth who decide to committ their musically talent to the lord should be able to present it to the world in whatever fashion they choose.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christian hiphop is the primary music genre to reach the youth of today. to be honest, traditional gospel music is mainly listened to by older people. we have to give the youth music they can relate to. you cant combat kanye west and 50cent with the traditonal songs. besides, the youth who decide to committ their musically talent to the lord should be able to present it to the world in whatever fashion they choose.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23737</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23737</guid> <description>Julius, thanks for your comments on Christian hip-hop. Your position is most likely how those of us who have no problem with this music approach the topic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julius, thanks for your comments on Christian hip-hop. Your position is most likely how those of us who have no problem with this music approach the topic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By:  julius mickel</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23729</link> <dc:creator> julius mickel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:35:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23729</guid> <description>I was looking for something, and I stumbled here, yet I post because I was just in a discussion about this on another blog: Here are some of my reasonings for holding that Christian Hip-Hop is fruitful and why others don&#039;t think so:&lt;br&gt;For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;d have to argue that the critiques I&#039;ve seen have always been biased because of cultural differences. When someone points out the errors of someone like Driscoll because of vulgarity then I say amen or when contemporary (even hymns) contain weak if not herectical lyrics or the artists are merely doing &#039;crossover&#039; music then I&#039;d say amen to censure of such (yet the way to argue against Christian Hip-hop has to take a unique form that isn&#039;t used when exposing other art forms, that to me is suspect). It&#039;s simply a style of music, different people are moved different ways, the argument about how the music moves people is ridiculous. Rather we should commend such men that they are living holy lives, reaching their community, and are incredibly sound- this is what has caused a brother like Paul Washer to speak so highly of such men (as he spoke about the incredible HUNGER of the people attending such conf..)I just love the fact that he just doesn&#039;t fit into the typical southern mold. Admittedly unless one is within such a culture it will probably look odd and I&#039;m suprised (delightfully so) by the leaders who have looked beyond such (media influenced)stereotypes and have embraced these ministers!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d beg for deeper searching and analysis into such a subject (as well as an honest heart-searching concerning the possibility of prejudice agaisnt such a group of people who look, dress, talk, and move different), because the same weak arguments could be pushed to denounce any form of artistic expression, as far as the &#039;roots, origins&#039; are concerned such conclusions are the cause to overreactions to any instruments, or to &#039;pagan&#039; holidays not to mention recreation (like cards) and sports.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The scope of Christian rap (due to the genre) covers more than any other style because it&#039;s so varied (though that&#039;s completely ignored-some strictly band instruments, some jazzy, some more digitalized, etc..). One album entirely centered on the atonement, another by various artists each song summarizing the pauline letters, another defending against the da vinci code, another on OWen&#039;s killing sin, another on deliverance from masturbation, another from defending sola scriptura, another covering exegesis vs Eisegesis and the fruitful list goes on.&lt;br&gt;Yes there is much filth in secular Hip-Hop, as anything of man is tainted, twisted and abused: yet this is precisely why these artists (CHRISTIAN/REFORMED) are attacking these errors, the materialism, the sexuality, the immodesty, the violence, the pride, the rebellion, not to mention pointing out the errors of American christianity. In short Doctrine? CHECK, Life? CHECK, Fruit? CHECK. Give me any subject, even that which i love and I could critiqueit , give me homeschooling and I can point out the hypocrisy, the pride, the legalism, the elitism and yet I would denounce such as extremes while maintining that such a stigma against homeschoolers in general is unwarranted. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I maintain that this is cultural, that this is a matter of style and taste, no different then the other silly battles over style of music. Not comparable to &#039;opinions&#039; over matters of biblical doctrine. Like all music and art these are a people who are expressing their beliefs and lifestyles through such and because of that, because of the environments surrounding such artists given their depraved minds they expressed wickedness (like all artists) and sure it can be LOT more aggressive because the volume of the wickedness in such places is louder (more easily seen) but for those that have been redeemed by the grace of God they also have expressed themselves (beliefs and lifestyles) through the same tools and so we have Christian rap, praise God for these living epistles!!!&lt;br&gt;grace and peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for something, and I stumbled here, yet I post because I was just in a discussion about this on another blog: Here are some of my reasonings for holding that Christian Hip-Hop is fruitful and why others don&#39;t think so:<br
/>For what it&#39;s worth, I&#39;d have to argue that the critiques I&#39;ve seen have always been biased because of cultural differences. When someone points out the errors of someone like Driscoll because of vulgarity then I say amen or when contemporary (even hymns) contain weak if not herectical lyrics or the artists are merely doing &#39;crossover&#39; music then I&#39;d say amen to censure of such (yet the way to argue against Christian Hip-hop has to take a unique form that isn&#39;t used when exposing other art forms, that to me is suspect). It&#39;s simply a style of music, different people are moved different ways, the argument about how the music moves people is ridiculous. Rather we should commend such men that they are living holy lives, reaching their community, and are incredibly sound- this is what has caused a brother like Paul Washer to speak so highly of such men (as he spoke about the incredible HUNGER of the people attending such conf..)I just love the fact that he just doesn&#39;t fit into the typical southern mold. Admittedly unless one is within such a culture it will probably look odd and I&#39;m suprised (delightfully so) by the leaders who have looked beyond such (media influenced)stereotypes and have embraced these ministers!</p><p>I&#39;d beg for deeper searching and analysis into such a subject (as well as an honest heart-searching concerning the possibility of prejudice agaisnt such a group of people who look, dress, talk, and move different), because the same weak arguments could be pushed to denounce any form of artistic expression, as far as the &#39;roots, origins&#39; are concerned such conclusions are the cause to overreactions to any instruments, or to &#39;pagan&#39; holidays not to mention recreation (like cards) and sports.</p><p>The scope of Christian rap (due to the genre) covers more than any other style because it&#39;s so varied (though that&#39;s completely ignored-some strictly band instruments, some jazzy, some more digitalized, etc..). One album entirely centered on the atonement, another by various artists each song summarizing the pauline letters, another defending against the da vinci code, another on OWen&#39;s killing sin, another on deliverance from masturbation, another from defending sola scriptura, another covering exegesis vs Eisegesis and the fruitful list goes on.<br
/>Yes there is much filth in secular Hip-Hop, as anything of man is tainted, twisted and abused: yet this is precisely why these artists (CHRISTIAN/REFORMED) are attacking these errors, the materialism, the sexuality, the immodesty, the violence, the pride, the rebellion, not to mention pointing out the errors of American christianity. In short Doctrine? CHECK, Life? CHECK, Fruit? CHECK. Give me any subject, even that which i love and I could critiqueit , give me homeschooling and I can point out the hypocrisy, the pride, the legalism, the elitism and yet I would denounce such as extremes while maintining that such a stigma against homeschoolers in general is unwarranted.</p><p>I maintain that this is cultural, that this is a matter of style and taste, no different then the other silly battles over style of music. Not comparable to &#39;opinions&#39; over matters of biblical doctrine. Like all music and art these are a people who are expressing their beliefs and lifestyles through such and because of that, because of the environments surrounding such artists given their depraved minds they expressed wickedness (like all artists) and sure it can be LOT more aggressive because the volume of the wickedness in such places is louder (more easily seen) but for those that have been redeemed by the grace of God they also have expressed themselves (beliefs and lifestyles) through the same tools and so we have Christian rap, praise God for these living epistles!!!<br
/>grace and peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kelvin</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23539</link> <dc:creator>kelvin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:37:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23539</guid> <description>by listening to shai linne i was introduced to preachers such as A.W. Tozer, A.W. Pink, Charles Spurgeon. Also John Piper &amp; Paul Washer among others. I attended a church for many years that was caught up in the health wealth and prosperity message. I had never heard of doctrines such as the depravity of man, repentence from sin, unconditional election, justification or the truth of the gospel untill God, by His grace and Spirit, had started a regenerating work in my heart through the wonderful preaching of His word, by using these depraved, wretched, yet humble preachers i had mentioned. All this began by listening to a song by reformed rapper shai linne called The Mission.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;john 3:8 &quot;The wind blows where it wills; and though you hear its sound, yet you neither know where it come from nor where its going: so is everyone that is born of the Spirit&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by listening to shai linne i was introduced to preachers such as A.W. Tozer, A.W. Pink, Charles Spurgeon. Also John Piper &#038; Paul Washer among others. I attended a church for many years that was caught up in the health wealth and prosperity message. I had never heard of doctrines such as the depravity of man, repentence from sin, unconditional election, justification or the truth of the gospel untill God, by His grace and Spirit, had started a regenerating work in my heart through the wonderful preaching of His word, by using these depraved, wretched, yet humble preachers i had mentioned. All this began by listening to a song by reformed rapper shai linne called The Mission.</p><p>john 3:8 &#8220;The wind blows where it wills; and though you hear its sound, yet you neither know where it come from nor where its going: so is everyone that is born of the Spirit&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23540</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23540</guid> <description>Kelvin, thanks for sharing how hip-hop brought you to solid theology and out of the prosperity teachings. I appreciate it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelvin, thanks for sharing how hip-hop brought you to solid theology and out of the prosperity teachings. I appreciate it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23243</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:17:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23243</guid> <description>I would just like to add something about the rap music via the piano and organ to this discussion from a 9Marks article on contextualization. According to the article, the musical tools of the piano and organ were not for Christian music during worship or otherwise. This seems to run along the lines of the same objections some have to rap music due to its origin. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The music we sing is based on a totally different tonality from that of the ancient Mediterranean world, and it uses very different instruments. (&lt;b&gt;The piano was not invented until the modern era, and the organ was originally a Roman circus instrument, considered unfit for Christian worship.&lt;/b&gt;)  Our music would have sounded strange and unpleasant to them, and vice versa. (It should be noted that all Christian music, at some point, has been &quot;contemporary Christian music,&quot; and that even the most traditional songs today were probably regarded as risqué by somebody when they first came out!)[emphasis mine]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/putting-contextualization-its-place&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Putting Contextualization in its Place&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to add something about the rap music via the piano and organ to this discussion from a 9Marks article on contextualization. According to the article, the musical tools of the piano and organ were not for Christian music during worship or otherwise. This seems to run along the lines of the same objections some have to rap music due to its origin.</p><blockquote><p>The music we sing is based on a totally different tonality from that of the ancient Mediterranean world, and it uses very different instruments. (<b>The piano was not invented until the modern era, and the organ was originally a Roman circus instrument, considered unfit for Christian worship.</b>)  Our music would have sounded strange and unpleasant to them, and vice versa. (It should be noted that all Christian music, at some point, has been &#8220;contemporary Christian music,&#8221; and that even the most traditional songs today were probably regarded as risqué by somebody when they first came out!)[emphasis mine]</p></blockquote><p>Source: <a
href="http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/putting-contextualization-its-place" rel="nofollow">Putting Contextualization in its Place</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sermonfire</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23177</link> <dc:creator>sermonfire</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23177</guid> <description>Frank that&#039;s why you don&#039;t have a book deal yet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lol</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank that&#39;s why you don&#39;t have a book deal yet.</p><p>lol</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: frankturk</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23151</link> <dc:creator>frankturk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23151</guid> <description>Do you have any idea how much it hurts to disagree with Mark Dever AND James White AND HereIBlog?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any idea how much it hurts to disagree with Mark Dever AND James White AND HereIBlog?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: frankturk</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23148</link> <dc:creator>frankturk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:42:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23148</guid> <description>[BUZZ]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Someone on the internet is wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2009/10/rap-and-bad-art-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2009/10/rap-and-b...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[BUZZ]</p><p>Someone on the internet is wrong.</p><p><a
href="http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2009/10/rap-and-bad-art-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2009/10/rap-and-b&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23149</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:48:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23149</guid> <description>Now Frank aka centuri0n is chiming in on the topic &lt;a href=&quot;http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2009/10/rap-and-bad-art-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rap and Bad Art (1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another interesting post is James White&#039;s from when he met up with &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=3385&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LeCrae, Tedashi and the rest of the guys.&lt;/a&gt;&quot; Dr. White met up with them when they were, as he said, &quot;ministering&quot; in Phoenix.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting discussion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Frank aka centuri0n is chiming in on the topic <a
href="http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2009/10/rap-and-bad-art-1.html" rel="nofollow">Rap and Bad Art (1)</a></p><p>Another interesting post is James White&#39;s from when he met up with &#8220;<a
href="http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=3385" rel="nofollow">LeCrae, Tedashi and the rest of the guys.</a>&#8221; Dr. White met up with them when they were, as he said, &#8220;ministering&#8221; in Phoenix.</p><p>Interesting discussion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23145</link> <dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:04:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23145</guid> <description>Thanks for putting this topic out there for discussion. I for one listen to &quot;christian&quot; hip-hop. I think discernment is key here. As someone that lived most of my youth and young adult life influenced by secular rap, I am grateful that God has given us brothers like Shai Linne, Lecrea, Trip Lee, Flame etc.... Their music leads me to worship Christ, not my flesh like secular rap did. For the record, there is some rap out there that is under the &quot;christian&quot; label that is not glorifing God at all, hence the need for discernment. Thanks again Mark.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this topic out there for discussion. I for one listen to &#8220;christian&#8221; hip-hop. I think discernment is key here. As someone that lived most of my youth and young adult life influenced by secular rap, I am grateful that God has given us brothers like Shai Linne, Lecrea, Trip Lee, Flame etc&#8230;. Their music leads me to worship Christ, not my flesh like secular rap did. For the record, there is some rap out there that is under the &#8220;christian&#8221; label that is not glorifing God at all, hence the need for discernment. Thanks again Mark.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rhology</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23142</link> <dc:creator>Rhology</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23142</guid> <description>It depends entirely on the lyrical content.  This whole &quot;some styles of music are closer to Hell than to Heaven based entirely on their sound&quot; thing is in my judgment very nearly baseless.  &lt;br&gt;Shai Linne &gt; T-Bone just as Cædmon&#039;s Call &gt; Avalon.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends entirely on the lyrical content.  This whole &#8220;some styles of music are closer to Hell than to Heaven based entirely on their sound&#8221; thing is in my judgment very nearly baseless. <br
/>Shai Linne &gt; T-Bone just as Cædmon&#39;s Call &gt; Avalon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23144</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:04:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23144</guid> <description>Phillip said &lt;blockquote&gt;Why is hip hop always singled out?&lt;/blockquote&gt; Interesting question. There are times when it really does seem this way. I wonder if hip-hop is singled out more than other mediums whether they be musical or otherwise.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip said<br
/><blockquote>Why is hip hop always singled out?</p></blockquote><p> Interesting question. There are times when it really does seem this way. I wonder if hip-hop is singled out more than other mediums whether they be musical or otherwise.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23143</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:56:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23143</guid> <description>If anyone would like to read the series on hip-hop they are, in order:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/t-r...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop-part-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/t-r...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop-part-3/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/t-r...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop-part-4-of-4/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/t-r...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Tyler.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone would like to read the series on hip-hop they are, in order:<br
/><a
href="http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop/" rel="nofollow">http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/t-r&#8230;</a><br
/><a
href="http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop-part-2/" rel="nofollow">http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/t-r&#8230;</a><br
/><a
href="http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop-part-3/" rel="nofollow">http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/t-r&#8230;</a><br
/><a
href="http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/t-reck-thinking-biblically-about-hip-hop-part-4-of-4/" rel="nofollow">http://indoxanated.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/t-r&#8230;</a></p><p>Thanks, Tyler.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tylerrecker</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23139</link> <dc:creator>tylerrecker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:45:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23139</guid> <description>I did a series of posts called &quot;Thinking Biblically About Hip-hop&quot; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://indoxanated.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;indoxanated.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William &quot;The Ambassador&quot; Branch wrote his master&#039;s thesis on the subject.  In turn, that was the theme of his album &quot;The Thesis&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a series of posts called &#8220;Thinking Biblically About Hip-hop&#8221; at <a
href="http://indoxanated.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">indoxanated.wordpress.com</a> .</p><p>William &#8220;The Ambassador&#8221; Branch wrote his master&#39;s thesis on the subject.  In turn, that was the theme of his album &#8220;The Thesis&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23134</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:08:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23134</guid> <description>Here are two articles that critique Dever&#039;s interview with Shai Linne &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.religiousaffections.org/audio-resources/podcast-audio/can-rap-be-christian-part-1-of-podcast-with-michael-riley&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Can Rap be Christian? The Presuppositions&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://conservativechristianity.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/some-thoughts-on-some-sincere-christian-rappers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Thoughts on Two Sincere Christian Rappers&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have not had a chance to read through them all the way yet, but it is worth thinking through and considering what is said.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are two articles that critique Dever&#39;s interview with Shai Linne <a
href="http://www.religiousaffections.org/audio-resources/podcast-audio/can-rap-be-christian-part-1-of-podcast-with-michael-riley" rel="nofollow">Can Rap be Christian? The Presuppositions</a> and <a
href="http://conservativechristianity.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/some-thoughts-on-some-sincere-christian-rappers/" rel="nofollow">Some Thoughts on Two Sincere Christian Rappers</a>.</p><p>I have not had a chance to read through them all the way yet, but it is worth thinking through and considering what is said.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark &#124; hereiblog</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23135</link> <dc:creator>Mark &#124; hereiblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:08:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23135</guid> <description>Here are two articles that critique Dever&#039;s interview with Shai Linne &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.religiousaffections.org/audio-resources/podcast-audio/can-rap-be-christian-part-1-of-podcast-with-michael-riley&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Can Rap be Christian? The Presuppositions&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://conservativechristianity.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/some-thoughts-on-some-sincere-christian-rappers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Thoughts on Two Sincere Christian Rappers&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have not had a chance to read through them all the way yet, but it is worth thinking through and considering what is said.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are two articles that critique Dever&#39;s interview with Shai Linne <a
href="http://www.religiousaffections.org/audio-resources/podcast-audio/can-rap-be-christian-part-1-of-podcast-with-michael-riley" rel="nofollow">Can Rap be Christian? The Presuppositions</a> and <a
href="http://conservativechristianity.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/some-thoughts-on-some-sincere-christian-rappers/" rel="nofollow">Some Thoughts on Two Sincere Christian Rappers</a>.</p><p>I have not had a chance to read through them all the way yet, but it is worth thinking through and considering what is said.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micah</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23122</link> <dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:08:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23122</guid> <description>Didnt work, try this:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfmAksujkGY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfmAksujkGY&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didnt work, try this: <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfmAksujkGY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfmAksujkGY</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micah</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23121</link> <dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:07:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23121</guid> <description>&lt;object width=&quot;425&quot; height=&quot;344&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/FfmAksujkGY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowscriptaccess&quot; value=&quot;always&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/FfmAksujkGY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;always&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;true&quot; width=&quot;425&quot; height=&quot;344&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;object width=&#8221;425&#8243; height=&#8221;344&#8243;&gt;&lt;param name=&#8221;movie&#8221; value=&#8221;http://www.youtube.com/v/FfmAksujkGY&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1&#038;&#8221;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&#8221;allowFullScreen&#8221; value=&#8221;true&#8221;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&#8221;allowscriptaccess&#8221; value=&#8221;always&#8221;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src=&#8221;http://www.youtube.com/v/FfmAksujkGY&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1&#038;&#8221; type=&#8221;application/x-shockwave-flash&#8221; allowscriptaccess=&#8221;always&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;true&#8221; width=&#8221;425&#8243; height=&#8221;344&#8243;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: phillip</title><link>http://hereiblog.com/poll-does-christian-hip-hop-harm-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-23115</link> <dc:creator>phillip</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:51:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://hereiblog.com/?p=2443#comment-23115</guid> <description>I answered &quot;It could&quot; because it is a genre of music. What I am wondering is will you have a poll for Christian Contemporary, Southern Gospel, etc? Why is hip hop always singled out? The genre is vehicle which can be used to present Christ.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I answered &#8220;It could&#8221; because it is a genre of music. What I am wondering is will you have a poll for Christian Contemporary, Southern Gospel, etc? Why is hip hop always singled out? The genre is vehicle which can be used to present Christ.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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