A Response to Jerry Vines on Calvinism and Southern Baptists

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Friend and fellow Southern Baptist Joshua Breland has responded to Jerry Vines’ recent comments that Calvinism is one of the biggest challenges confronting the Southern Baptist Convention in his article: Maybe the Mayan Calendar Was Marking the End of the Southern Baptist Convention.

One of the claims Joshua addresses is Vines’ charge that a move toward five-point Calvinism would be a move away from the gospel. If this claim is correct, then there are a lot of Southern Baptists serving the Lord who are further away from the gospel than those non-Calvinists with whom they serve. (I suppose that’s what Vines means about moving away from the gospel.) Can those Calvinists who are allegedly further from the gospel than Vines actually be used by God to bring someone to repentance and faith? If one has moved away from the gospel can they still be a Christian? What exactly are Calvinist Southern Baptists calling people to if they have moved away from the gospel? The rhetorical questions could go on since there is not a clear explanation of what it means for Calvinism to move Christians away from the gospel. I digress.

It is odd for a leader in the SBC to claim that the theology that had a strong standing in beginning the SBC for the purpose of spreading the gospel is actually a move away from the gospel.

Anyway, check out Joshua’s article.

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The above article was posted on January 24, 2012


6 comments
Greg Alford
Greg Alford

Jerry Vines comes off in all this as: a "Bitter Man!"

Anger and Bitterness will not attract a lot of Southern Baptist to his cause... nor should it.

He has declared that he is no longer willing to live in peace within the SBC with his fellow Southern Baptist that do not agree with his opinions... and let's be honest here... He wants Dr. Mohler and Dr. Akin forced out!

Chris Roberts
Chris Roberts

People like Vines are essentially saying, "I don't mind Calvinists in the SBC, so long as they stay in their place. But if they start drawing attention - and especially if they start growing - they need to go away."

SAGordon
SAGordon

I read the interview with Dr. Vines at SBC Today. While I respect him greatly, I am greatly disappointed. I'm assuming that Boyce, et al., helped establish the SBC away from the Gospel early on. I know he says he's worked with Calvinist SBC brothers in the past...I wish he would more clearly indicate what the problem is now with Calvinists in the SBC. I fear this is another here we go again...

Joe Blackmon
Joe Blackmon

With the various kinds of theological drift going on (i.e. people embracing or admitting they embrace inclusivism, people who reject inerrancy, etc) this seems like a really WEIRD place to draw a line in the sand. I could gladly partner in many gospel endevors with a non-Calvinist that was an inerrantist, a complimentarian, and who believed in the exclusivity of a conscious faith in Christ as necessary for salvation.

Mark
Mark

Frank, I agree. Unfortunately, It would not be too difficult to take one of his paragraphs and say the same things back to him. I often wonder if some folks really want to work together.

Frank Gantz
Frank Gantz

Mark, when I read Vines' comments, I wondered the same things. In comments warning about dividing on this issue, he sounds sort of divisive.

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