TD Jakes Reviews: Elephant Room and 11 Various Books

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First, James White weighs in on his Dividing Line radio show for two hours. There were so many listeners that the servers crashed.  Find the link and a description below.

A Mega-Friday DL on TD Jakes and Elephants in the Room

In any case, I addressed the TD Jakes: is he a Trinitarian? issue head on during the first hour, and then took calls on the topic for a full hour after that. The callers were wide ranging, and while none defended the ER or Jakes, they did provide some good insights. Lots of positive feedback on Twitter and FaceBook. Hope it will be helpful! Here’s the program.

Next, a past resource from 9Marks by Greg Gilbert who reviews 11 various books by T.D. Jakes. It seems that Jakes’ theology improved somewhat with the new books on Ephesians. Check the link for more on the titles listed below. (HT: Keith L. Tolbert)

Book Review: T.D. Jakes: Various Works

  • Woman, Thou art Loosed!  Treasure House:1993, reprinted 1999.
  • Can You Stand to Be Blessed?  Treasure House: 1994, reprinted 1999.
  • Naked and Not Ashamed.  Treasure House:1995, reprinted 1999.
  • So You Call Yourself a Man?  Alsbury Publishing:  1997.
  • Anointing Fall on Me.  Pneuma Life Publishing:  1997.
  • The Lady, Her Lover, and Her Lord.  Berkley Books: 1998.
  • Maximize the Moment.  G.P. Putnam’s Sons:  1999.
  • The Great Investment.  G.P. Putnam’s Sons:  2000.
  • Six Pillars from Ephesians: Loved by God.  Albury Publishing:  2000.
  • Six Pillars from Ephesians: Experiencing Jesus. Albury Publishing:  2000.
  • Six Pillars from Ephesians: The Spiritual Worship of the Believer.  Albury Publishers: 2000.

Gilbert comments.

On the whole, most of T.D. Jakes’s works belong on the psychology shelves at the bookstore.  They have little to do with the gospel of the Bible.  Stories and truths in the Bible are used as encouragements to think positively and overcome hardship, or to prove that God is waiting to bless us if we’ll only believe more and stop feeling sorry for ourselves.  Sin is mostly absent and when it is discussed, it is usually no more insidious than a bad self-esteem.  Sometimes Jakes makes it sound as if we are innocent victims of sin, which has evilly placed us in bad circumstances and tries to shackle us to our past.  There is no mention of hell or punishment.  God’s grace is most often talked about as a way to release us from our past, or heal old wounds, or teach us how to handle difficult relationships.

P.s. Richard Barcellos interviewed former Oneness pastor and friend Jordan Dayoub about Jakes’ statements at the Elephant Room. Below is one question and answer to whet your appetite.

ER2 Q&A with a former Oneness pastor

RB: Did you hear (or read) the discussion on the doctrine of the Trinity between T. D. Jakes, Mark Driscoll, and James MacDonald and what was your over-all impression of that discussion?

JD: I read the article and even saw a clip on YouTube. Here’s the problem. Driscoll and MacDonald let him expound on his own views and experiences and I know it was in a spirit of love. What they’re unable to detect, because they’re unfamiliar, is the ecumenical smokescreen that big-time prosperity preachers like Jakes put up because he really cares nothing for theology. If you listen closely, his entire discourse is centered on denominational identities and bridging the divide. He says he was Metho-Baptist-Pentecostal because of his upbringing. He sees theology simply as petty divisions among varying tribes of Christian sects. Because he sees himself as a ‘bridge builder’, doctrine is merely semantics among those who profess Christ. He told them he believed in ‘God in three persons’ but never called himself a Trinitarian. His position today is exactly what it was 15 years ago – vague.

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The above article was posted on January 27, 2012 by Mark Lamprecht.
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1 Rich Barcellos January 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm

I interviewed a former Oneness pastor about ER2 here:
http://grbcav.org/2012/01/er2-qa-with-a-former-oneness-pastor/

2 Brian Osisek January 27, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Mark, I was taken aback as I watched a live steam of Code Orange Revival in the way that Steve Furtick gave the into to T. D. Jakes. Furtick said that T.D. Jakes was one of the “best preachers/teachers that the church has today.”

I’m amazed at the lack of discernment that is shown by so many of today’s church leaders. I just wrote an article on the “Spiritual Disciplines Movement” / Spiritual Formation Movement to show how the references that are made to certain author’s who are heretical e.g., Teresa of Avila, St. Ignatius, St. John of the cross, etc.

Some of the more moderate authors such as Richard Foster, Brennan Manning, Thomas Merton etc, are the more popular author’s that make reference to the above named individuals.

http://christianmusings-brian.blogspot.com/2011/12/i-feel-incredible-need-to-write-about.html

3 Mark January 27, 2012 at 4:22 pm

Rich, thanks old friend. I will check it out. It’s been a while since we’ve chatted. Hope you are well.

Brian, I agree. I don’t get it, but the Bible does warn about itching ears, false doctrine, etc. Thanks for the link.

4 Michael Buratovich January 28, 2012 at 11:24 pm

When I was in graduate school, some friends asked me to read Jakes’ book, “Can You Stand to be Blessed?” and comment on it. It thought it was typical prosperity pablum and I told them so. I thought little more of it until I was a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and I saw the huge influence Jakes and his preaching tends to have over African-American congregations. He is definitely in the Oneness camp and that adds to the theological problems represented by his preaching.

The interview with him is more pablum. All this rubbish about “not attacking” people is postmodernism with a bishop’s title. The disagree with someone and to assert what you think is true is not regarded as civil debate, but as attacking someone. That is the mark of someone who either can’t stand to have someone disagree with them or does get the gospel and the need to defend it in its entirety. I have neither read the entire interview nor read the rest of Jakes’ books, but if his other books are like the one I read, Jakes is a heretic, pure and simple. This interview does little to change my mind and, for my money, Jakes is trying to pedal his influence and magnetic personality to find more inroads into evangelical Christianity. I wish ER2 would have chosen someone else to represent believing African Americans.

5 Dan February 3, 2012 at 11:32 am

I’m fairly flabbergasted that Bishop Jake’s HWP teaching/preaching never came up. Although Modalism is in fact heretical, HWP is the immediate deadly poison that’s fleecing so many of the flock and destroying lives.

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