Blog bites: Warrenism Splits Church

Yes, that’s Warrenism named after Rick Warren. I wondered if anyone had used that term before so just Google it and see. When I say Warrenism splits church I am referring to a story by Suzanne Sataline in the Wall Street Journal entitled A Popular Strategy For Church Growth Splits Congregants. It was only a matter of time that the seeker driven methods get critiqued in the media, but I would not have guess that it would make the Wall Street Journal. I don’t even know if the evil theology of Calvinism has made it that big.

My favorite quote from the article.

During a session titled “Dealing with Opposition,” Mr. Clyde recommended that the pastor speak to critical members, then help them leave if they don’t stop objecting. Then when those congregants join a new church, Mr. Clyde instructed, pastors should call their new minister and suggest that the congregants be barred from any leadership role.

Uh, what? Chase former members around? Maybe this is a new kind of post modern church discipline. Purpose Driven Discipline: to drive disagreeable folks away from leadership where ever they go until they have the proper purpose. Seriously, I am sure there is more to the story than meets the eye. There are always two sides to every story though this article does not shine a positive light on the whole PDL movement.

I wish churches were more Gospel driven and that was the main purpose. Warm bodies in the pews don’t equal hearts on fire for Jesus Christ. I also can’t help but think that the $100’s of thousands of dollars spent on church buildings, equipment, etc. could be used for people in need. A church doesn’t have to spend millions of dollars to have the best of the best in sound equipment and decorum.

It all just makes me think “To what end?”


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{ 5 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Jason Dale Crowder September 9, 2006 at 1:52 pm


I totally agree that churches need to get back to what truly matters…preaching the gospel faithfully.

It is just a matter of time that Warrenism will fade away, like all fades. But the Bible will remain.

2 jigawatt September 11, 2006 at 5:35 pm

Sounds like Roddy Clyde has been reading those demotivational posters.

3 Christopher Redman September 14, 2006 at 2:49 pm

Isn’t it interesting that many SBC people are blasting Calvinism as splitting churches and calvinists for not giving an invitation (altar call).

Rick Warren is actually doing both but it’s okay for him because his church has 30,000 members.

4 johnMark September 14, 2006 at 8:27 pm

Churches need to get back to preaching the whole Gospel as well as discipling.

At times it seems that discipling consists of walking the aisle and being accepted into membership.

Chris, does Warren actually have 30,000 member or are those attendees?


5 The Searcher October 31, 2006 at 10:55 am

I just hope someone will let me know when Warren’s Forty Days of Marketing ™ are over.–>


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