Praying to the Abortion God

When the battle over the separation of church and state rears its ugly head, it is normally Democrats who are attempting to keep the church  from participating in state issues. At times, the fight is to remove prayer from political gatherings. Given the types of prayers recently promoted by some Democrats in Iowa, it is easy to understand why some want the church separated from the state.

Why? Seems some Democrats and pro-abortion activists have their own god to pray to!

The prayers in the video may not be clear enough to understand. Let me help. (HT: Robert Laurie)

“We give thanks, oh Lord, for the doctors, both current and future, who provide quality abortion care.”

“We pray for increased financial support for low-income women to access contraception, abortion and childcare.”

“Today, we pray for women in developing nations, that they may know the power of self-determination. May they have access to employment, education, birth control and abortion.”

“We pray for women who have been made afraid of their own power by their materialistic religion. May they learn to reject fear and live bravely.”

“Today we pray for the families who have chosen. May they know the blessing of choice.”

Now, I’m not sure what god is being prayed to above who would grant abortion. Maybe the Old Testament gives some insight.

You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord” (Leviticus 18:21, ESV). [emphasis added]

My prayer is that these folks would repent of their sins – including these prayers – and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins granting them eternal life. That they would turn and fight for the life of those precious little ones in the womb who are made in God’s image.

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1 tjcxjonz155 August 30, 2013 at 11:31 pm

Looks to me that you’re just a pot calling the kettle black. After all it is your belief that God’s child was sacrificed in your place. Why would somebody else be guilty of a sin if they sacrifice their child to Molech and you not remain guilty of sins by a man’s murder? What’s your defense? God sacrificed god to God and as of that you are not guilty of anything? Yeah right.

2 Mark Lamprecht August 31, 2013 at 12:02 am

tjcxjonz155 Looks, as you put it, can be deceiving. Jesus laid down His life, a perfect sacrifice, it was not involuntarily taken from Him.

3 tjcxjonz155 August 31, 2013 at 9:05 am

Crucifying him was the sin of murder, Acts 4:25-28, Acts 5:30, Acts 7:52, and it was this corporate sin which was repented of to comply to the commandment of Acts 2:38 which is also a law.
“For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Rom. 2:13
Both Stephen and Paul testify that this word of law was put into effect through angels Acts 7:53 & Gal. 3:19, relative to Heb. 7:12, which testifies to the fact of the law being changed AFTER Jesus was crucified and to Paul’s confirming that this law was by a mediator. 
And just exactly like the hypocrites in Acts 7 who murdered Stephen and denied that they had murdered the Lord. You also have not obeyed the law which was put into effect through angels by a mediator. Saying like them “We are not guilty of this man’s blood”. But by participating in the Lord’s table, and not discerning that the crucifixion of Jesus Christ is the sin of murder and is an accountable sin, partook. Eating that bread and drinking from that cup, you have made yourself guilty of the Lord’s body and blood knowing that offering a child to any god by murder is already a sin. Judging them who do that to be guilty of sin you have also judged yourself guilty of that same sin saying, “The murder of Jesus Christ is not a sin” lied. And you by attempting to make the murder of the only begotten son of God a direct advantage for yourself, just as any offering of a child to Molech was thought to be, are indeed guilty of that same sin.
“YOU! Therefore have no excuse for you rob the temple of Molech for your doctrine of salvation.

4 Chris Roberts August 31, 2013 at 10:52 am

tjcxjonz155 Scripture speaks plainly when it tells us of the nature of Jesus’ death. Yes, it was murder, but a murder that could not have happened contrary to the will of the triune God. Jesus gave his life, it was not taken from him. He came knowing how things would end, yet he came willingly. He went to the cross when he could have escaped it. And all this because of the plan of the triune God to redeem people from their sins.
That makes things quite a bit different from the person who kills their children, most often for matters of personal luxury or comfort. Those who gave their children to Molech were hoping that false deity would bless them following such a sacrifice. Those today who give their children to the abortion doctor are hoping that such a sacrifice will make their lives better – or at least preserve the status quo. But when God the Father sent God the Son and God the Son came willingly as a sacrifice, it was to give us life, to give us hope and a future – a far cry from the self-seeking horror of throwing children into the fire or tossing them under the knife.

5 BethanyJohnson August 31, 2013 at 1:13 pm

At the risk of being lynched I will say: I hate a world where abortion is a reality but I would rather it be done in a safe clinic with available emotional support to help then through the aftermath then for them to go to a underground clinic, get hacked to bits, and then abandoned my the church and shamed when they truly felt they had NO other choice.  I would rather abortion be legal in this world then illegal, we have seen the horrible damage caused to women when it was an underground practice and birth control wasn’t readily available. I think it is a blessing and a mercy of God to allow there to be safe contraception and safe abortion clinics. It is a broken world and we are not called to judge the world, only to be here and offer it Christ’s healing when they realize they are broken.

6 Chris Roberts August 31, 2013 at 1:55 pm

BethanyJohnson Christ did not just come to heal and forgive, he also came telling people to go and sin no more.
As for abortion, it is never the only choice. Some may be deceived into believing they have no alternative, but there is always an alternative.

7 BethanyJohnson August 31, 2013 at 2:31 pm

@Chris Roberts BethanyJohnson were does it say that we are suppose to tell non-Christians in the world to “Go and sin no more”? Also please tell the rape victim who can’t tell her parents or the church that she is pregnant because if he dose they will make her feel like it was her fault for being raped that she has some other option then abortion to hide her shame. Yes there is always an alternative but when in the trenches of reality the alternative may not feel like an option. We are to give the Gospel to the world and let the Holy Sprit do His job. He is much better at it then we are.

8 Chris Roberts August 31, 2013 at 3:53 pm

BethanyJohnson Whether or not the alternative feels like an option is irrelevant. When it comes to my feelings versus the life of a child, choose the life of a child.

9 BethanyJohnson August 31, 2013 at 4:12 pm

@Chris Roberts well I’m just glad that as a man you will never be in a position where you are forced to make such a diction. It is easy for a man to tell a woman what she is to do with her own body… yes the life of a child is important, that isn’t the debate, the debate is weather the life of the child is more important then the life or emotional well being of the woman caring the child. In your world a woman would be forced to go through labor and give birth to every child she is impregnated with or suffer judgment and condemnation from the Government. Two of my three children were conceived though rape. I can’t imagine not having my children in my life, but I also know without Christ I would have aborted them and been condemned by the church, but not by God. It is hard to look into my children’s eyes and see my rapist. I chose to have my children and I don’t think less of a woman who chooses not to.
Lets say you are in a burning building that has a tube with 100 fertilized eggs in it and one two month old baby You only have time to chose the tube or the baby Which do you chose? If you say the child then you are a hypocrite because you just sacrificed 100 lives for 1, but if you say the eggs then you are a monster, pure and simple.

10 BethanyJohnson August 31, 2013 at 4:27 pm

And one more thing, men walk away from pregnancies and abandon children every day but because a woman can’t walk away from a pregnancy without ending the pregnancy she is condemned by you and many others for doing what a man can do without a second thought how is that not hierocracy?

11 Chris Roberts August 31, 2013 at 5:00 pm

BethanyJohnson “In your world a woman would be forced to go through labor and give birth to every child she is impregnated with or suffer judgment and condemnation from the Government.”

12 Chris Roberts August 31, 2013 at 5:01 pm

BethanyJohnson The topic is abortion, not abandonment. That’s a separate issue, though I understand the desire to distract. But on abandonment, that is certainly a massive problem of its own which needs to be more directly addressed. But I hardly see how the issue of abandonment is helped by giving people the means to just kill a child and be done with it.

13 BethanyJohnson August 31, 2013 at 5:07 pm

@Chris Roberts well then I am glad you aren’t the one making the laws, and I pray to God you are never in that position.

14 Chris Roberts August 31, 2013 at 5:31 pm

BethanyJohnson Praying to the abortion God?

15 tjcxjonz155 September 4, 2013 at 1:26 am

@Chris Roberts tjcxjonz155 The facts you are either unaware of or purposely ignoring are two facts. Jn. 16:8 is a direct statement made by the Lord that guilt relative to sin is to be the remaining issue after he was crucified. And his statement was made prior to his crucifixion. Your assumption, however, of him being sacrificed in your place  is contrary to his stated fact that crucifying him was not going to resolve the issue of guilt relative to sin. No matter what you may argue to support your assumption there is no factual evidence presentable to override his pronouncement. After all he is God manifested in the flesh and crucifying him, as the scripture states, was the sin of murder. Acts 7:52  Further. “For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight , but  it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.”  Rom. 2:13 This is indeed another fact  of scripture you are going to have to override by presentable factual evidence that is contrary to these stated facts of scripture. Never does the scripture allow for any sin to be a direct benefit to anyone and never will.

16 Mark Lamprecht September 4, 2013 at 9:32 am

tjcxjonz155Do you consider yourself a Christian? Or, are you here just to argue for fun?
And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; (John 16:8-9, ESV)
I’m not sure your point of noting John 16 since Jesus is talking about the world which is further clarified in verse 9 which points out their sin is a result of not believing in Jesus.
And what do you mean by, “Never does the scripture allow for any sin to be a direct benefit to anyone and never will.”

17 tjcxjonz155 September 4, 2013 at 10:47 am

Mark Lamprecht tjcxjonz155 The Lord’s statement by Jn. 16:8 declares that the world unilaterally will still remain guilty in regard to sin after the fact of his crucifixion. Your proposition, however, assumes that just crucifying him has resolved the issue that he says was not going to be resolved by crucifying him. The word world in Jn. 16:8 is relative to the inclusive populace of the world. RE”what do you mean?” Every sin is an infraction of the law including the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. And your expressed thought  about this fact is complicitous with the reasoning of every other sociopath and you don’t even know it. “Well” you say”he laid down his life of his own accord and murdering him was not a sin.” Get real man!


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